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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 18, 2011 2:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sailor Gave At Least A Try

Thanks! Btw Shakedown was released one day before my first show, so it gets to count as "pre-existing." (Phew. I just checked that. I thought I might have to revise my theory. But it still holds, albeit perhaps on a technicality.)

It was interesting that you said that "years of subsequent listening have taught me that the 68-74 band is considerably stronger than [later]." Others here have said similar things. What's interesting to me is the phrasing. Cuz psychologically, see, 68-74 would be to me as, say, 80-86 would be to you. Not technically "my era" but part of what was thought of at the time as contemporary. So the Dead of 68-74 isn't quite something I see as a history to discover, exactly (although of course it's also that), but also the Dead that characterized the Recent Canon and the tapes we had (well, no one had 60s, but early 70s circulated) and that defined the sound. Even the '60s, which I just heard on album, were more a case of "oh, bummer, music was so amazing then, and I just missed it by a hair!" As opposed to it being, say, historical.

Which is how I can think of my consciousness being formed as a Keith-and-Donna Deadhead even though, of course, I saw WAY more Brent era, and even more Vince than Keith, actually. I swear, it's true, Brent was always The New Guy. I guess that's how Pigpen folks thought about Keith!

Pigpen = He was on those older albums
Keith = the Dead's real keyboard guy
Brent = The New Guy
Vince = Oh, yeah, him ...

(I've been fleshing out ideas with my husband on some writing that touches on generational consciousness and discourse in this part of the world, so I can pretend this is part of "work" and not just messing around, LOL, cuz it's too hot to think intelligently.)

You should post on that 7/18/90 show. Though of course it won't be as good as 7/18/76, which has Keith and Donna!

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Jul 18, 2011 3:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Sailor Gave At Least A Try

AR, I pledge I will buy at least ten copies of anything you get published about the GD to give to friends and family, so tell your publisher that market demand is huge! Maybe you already have, since I guess you are a pro (making all us amateurs feel inadequate with your word-slingin skills!) writer?

The first live Dead show I saw was Chinese New year 1993 and I drove across the country with the attitude of "Oh man Jerry's gonna die, I gotta see the band before that" - which sounds a bit morbid I suppose when stated in that fashion!

I was pretty well informed about the band, and I was a big fan of the whole beat and psychedelic generation, really into Burroughs and Kesey and HST and "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" and so I had a pretty clear awareness of the historical nature of the band, the shocking and amazing fact that the Lightning of the 60s was still out there in the world. I was a fanatical classical musician who stumbled into the band via musician friends and our efforts at collective instrumental improvisation, which started before I had ever heard the I rambling enough yet?

It still was and is All About the Music though, not the cultural history, although I think the role of psychedelics in creating "group mind" phenomenon can't be overlooked. I honestly believe the GD were the best improvisers in musical history, and the use of LSD to create some kind of deeper synchronization between their brains by imprinting common experiences seems to be relevant to that.

I will post something on 7/18/90 in another thread that I found as neat historical trivia when searching the Old Net.

For me, 1990 represents my "missed it by a hair!" era, since I missed Brent in about the same way that you missed the Wall of Sound.